US special envoy for Afghanistan Thomas West is set to visit Qatar next week to hold talks with the Taliban.

“I can confirm that next week Special Representative for Afghanistan Tom West will return to Doha for two weeks of meetings with Taliban leaders there,” State Department Spokesperson Ned Price said in a press briefing on Tuesday (local time).

“They’ll discuss our vital national interests when it comes to Afghanistan, that includes counterterrorism, that includes a safe passage for US citizens and for Afghans to whom we have a special commitment and that includes humanitarian assistance and the economic situation of the country,” he added.

Earlier this month West had said that Washington is worried about the spike in attacks by Islamic State in Afghanistan and remains concerned about al Qaeda’s presence in the country.

Newly appointed US special envoy spoke to reporters by telephone from Belgium, where he briefed NATO allies on the issues concerning Afghanistan.

He also held consultations on a “road map” toward recognition of the Taliban government after the US troop pullout in August, TOLOnews reported.

“The Taliban have voiced very clearly and openly their desire to normalize relations with the international community, to see a resumption in aid, to see a return of the international diplomatic community to Kabul and to see sanctions relief,” he said.

Below is a full rush transcript of the press conference by Thomas West Special Representative for Afghanistan.

Mr. West:  It is a pleasure and an honor to speak with you today from Brussels.  Earlier today I briefed a meeting of the North Atlantic Council here at NATO Headquarters.  I wanted to give a sense of recent U.S. engagements with the Taliban, and we consulted meaningfully and candidly on the way ahead.  

And here at NATO, it’s often said that we went in together, we adjusted together, and we left together.  Now I would offer we need to look forward together.  I have to say, I found a sense of common purpose and shared objectives on that way ahead.  Number one, allies want to be sure that safe passage out of Afghanistan is assured, including for Afghans to whom we have a special commitment.  We want to see the Taliban fulfill their bedrock and oft-repeated commitments not to allow terrorists to pose a threat to any country.  Allies are supporting a robust humanitarian response to the worsening crisis there.  The United States, as many will have seen, recently announced an additional $144 million as part of that response, bringing our total this year to $474 million.  And we want to see woman as part of that response participate in every aspect of humanitarian aid delivery countrywide.

We all want to see human rights, minority rights, and the rights of women and girls – including access to education at all levels throughout the country – respected, assured, and delivered upon.  Statements are not enough. 

We want to see steps taken to form an inclusive and representative government, and that’s a point I think is especially shared by many regional powers as well.  

And I want to say I was part of the evacuation effort in Kabul, and I think a lot of our engagement with the Taliban really from mid-August through September was necessarily heavily focused on the urgent operational matter of departures, evacuations of Afghans, of foreign diplomats, and others.  Over the past several weeks we’ve started to determine internally how we were going to protect our vital national interests going forward.  And so in October, on the 9th and 10th, I was part of an interagency delegation that engaged with a high-level Taliban delegation in Doha over a two-day period.  Those talks were followed on the 12th of October by a U.S.-Europe engagement that included many, many of our allies who were represented today here at the NAC.

We are preparing for a next round of interagency U.S. engagement with the Taliban.  I don’t have a date to share with you at this stage.  But look, it’s just imperative that allies act and work together effectively when it comes to securing our interests in Afghanistan.  It’s also imperative that we work with the region – with Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran, and the Central Asian states – on our common and abiding interest in a stable Afghanistan that does not represent a threat to its neighbors, is at peace with itself, and respects human rights, women’s rights, the rights of minorities, and so forth.

Question:  With your travel, do you plan to also attend the regional meeting in India?  What do you expect?  What is the U.S. leverage over the Taliban that with this travel, it will influence them at least for forming an inclusive government for Afghanistan?  

Mr. West:  In my upcoming travels I do plan to visit Pakistan, Russia, and India.  I will not be a part of – I think you’re probably referring to the recent meeting announced that India will host of national security advisors.  

On your second question, look, the Taliban have voiced very clearly and openly their desire to normalize relations with the international community; to see a resumption in aid; to see a return of the international diplomatic community to Kabul; to see sanctions relief.  And the United States can deliver none of these things on our own, and we have to work together with the international community in order to see those things about.  But that’s not an insignificant give and take, and again, we just want to first consult with our likeminded allies on exactly what the roadmap looks like.    

Question:  The future of NATO in Afghanistan:  “What’s next?  What’s the next plan?”  

Mr. West:  I don’t think we made any final decisions today about the next step.  I think what’s important is that we consulted here today.  Look, I think allies are going to continue to play a heavy role in Afghanistan, and Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and non-NATO, but the EU has I think heavy interests in Afghanistan as well.  And so we will all engage forthrightly and in a clear-eyed manner with the Taliban and with shared interests and objectives.  

Question:  Can you give us an update on U.S. efforts to establish some sort of new counterterrorism presence in a neighboring country?  What’s happening right now?  Where are talks taking place?  And is the option of a new counterterrorism base, a new base in a neighboring country, still something that the U.S. is pursuing?  And I have a second question on Pakistan.  

Mr. West:  Thank you.  On that first question, look, the President’s made clear that we will maintain an unwavering commitment to ensure that Afghanistan never, ever again becomes a launching pad for terrorists that can harm us or harm our allies.  The President has also mentioned that we will ensure that we reorganize our capabilities to see that we have what we need to accomplish that objective.  My colleagues in DOD are focused on that mission, and I would refer to you – refer to DOD for more detail on that issue.

Question:  Yeah, so it seems like the most likely new U.S. counterterrorism presence in the region would be in Pakistan given that it appears as though the U.S. is sort of being boxed out of the other neighboring countries, and I’d be interested if you correct me if you think that that’s not correct.  But several Pakistani officials have publicly criticized the U.S. in recent days for not being clear about its ambitions for its follow-on, over-the-horizon mission in Afghanistan.  Have you heard those concerns from the Pakistanis?  How do you respond to that?  And do you think that the U.S. has been clear enough about what it plans to do for the region?

Mr. West:  Look, we are going to cooperate with the countries of the region when it comes to counterterrorism, and that includes with the Pakistanis.  I’ll be in Pakistan later this week and look forward to continuing those discussions.  I apologize, I don’t have any more for you on that matter right now.  

Question:  Is there any thinking about when or if the U.S. is going to reopen its embassy in Kabul?  And secondly, just following on from my colleague’s question, could you give a sense of how you’re viewing the terrorist threat right now on the ground in Afghanistan?  Like, is it – obviously you don’t want it to become a haven again that could affect – or terrorist haven that could affect Western countries, but are you seeing a flow of foreign fighters into the country that is a growing area of concern? 

Mr. West:  Look, when it comes to reopening our embassy in Kabul, I have to tell you candidly that we are not seriously thinking about taking that step at this time.  I think what we want to see is the establishment of a record of responsible conduct by the Taliban, of predictable conduct, and then we’ll assess what needs we have on the diplomatic front.

Insofar as how we view the terrorist threat in Afghanistan, look, we want the Taliban to succeed against ISIS-K.  I think they have a very vigorous effort underway against that group.  We condemn the innocent loss of Afghan lives that have taken place in recent weeks at the hands of vicious ISIS-K attacks across the country.  And so there I think we’re worried about the uptick in ISIS-K attacks and we want the Taliban to be successful against them.

When it comes to other groups, look, al-Qaida continues to have a presence in Afghanistan that we are very concerned about and that is an issue of ongoing concern for us in our dialogue with the Taliban.  

Question:  I have a question about China and the role China is playing in bringing stability to Afghanistan.  Do you welcome increased Chinese engagement in Afghanistan or are there concerns that China would gain a sphere of influence?  

Mr. West:  I think all the countries of the region have a positive role to play in Afghanistan’s future, and that includes China.  So we welcome a positive role by China.  I won’t be drawn out now on exactly what kinds of engagement we would welcome or not welcome, but certainly all the countries of the region, including China, have a positive role to play in Afghanistan’s future. 

Question:  We haven’t asked about the humanitarian situation, so I wondered if I could ask about that.  There are a lot of people out there, as you well know, who are calling the U.S. to do more not only on humanitarian aid but questions of unfreezing billions of dollars in reserves as well as leaning on things like the World Bank and the IMF or allowing things like the World Bank and the IMF to deliver actual salaries to the Afghans ahead of what is going to be a catastrophic winter in terms of the humanitarian situation.  So can you address what the U.S. is doing and can you address your critics saying that the U.S. isn’t doing enough fast enough? 

Mr. West:  I spent October 27th in New York meeting UN leadership, the leadership of OCHA, UNDP, UNICEF, as well as Under-Secretary Rosemary DiCarlo.  The UN has an absolutely essential role to play in Afghanistan right now.  They have a big footprint.  They are delivering lifesaving aid.  And that entire response, its effectiveness is one that the United States will be utterly and squarely behind.  That is why we are delivering this year $474 million in humanitarian assistance.  We welcome many allies who have really leaned into this effort from their capitals as well, and we hope that that continues.

Look, when it comes to salaries of civil servants and so forth, I would say I am aware of creative and urgent thinking that a number of organizations are doing about ways in which we might be able to see the World Bank or the UN pay salaries.  The United States has not taken a position on this matter.  It’s certainly one up for debate, but, frankly, we haven’t seen the specifics of the proposals, how we can ensure that zero money ever reached the Taliban, how we can ensure there would not be leakage to any terrorist organizations, and, frankly, what we would see in return from the Taliban for taking any steps in that direction.  I think we want to form common positions.  We want to consult openly and candidly with our Congress on the advisability of moving in this direction.  So it’s an area of discussion in our government, but we have not made a decision. 

Question:  I was wondering if you could elaborate more on the safe passage issue and what the biggest obstacles to getting Afghans out of the country – is it the Taliban?  Is it logistical, the logistical situation?  And on HKIA, was there any discussion this morning about reopening the airport in a more significant way?  How far out might we be from that? 

Mr. West:  Look, safe passage – I think the Taliban have delivered by and large on their commitment to us to allow Afghans to whom we owe a special commitment and American citizens and LPRs out of the country over the past several weeks in particular.  I think the real challenge we face, as you point out, is potentially logistical, especially as we head into the winter months.  Commercial airlines have been operating unscheduled relief and charter flights at great financial and operational risk under what are called daytime visual flight rules.  Many runway lights are damaged and not functioning, and the airport’s ability to operate in the winter months I think is in question.  So we recognize the need for international flights to resume regular scheduled operations and we support that resumption soon.  But look, that’s also a matter for the Taliban to move ahead on with potential partners in that endeavor.  

Police in Norway are treating a bow-and-arrow attack with five dead and two injured in the small town of Kongsberg as a possible terrorist act. 

“The incidents in Kongsberg currently appear to be an act of terrorism,” but the actual motive of the killer was not yet known, a statement by the security service of the Norwegian police said earlier on Thursday. 

“The threat situation in Norway is still assessed as moderate,” it said.

A public prosecutor later said that the man had provided a comprehensive statement and also given reasons for his actions, but she did not want to share the details with the public. 

So far, the man has not been formally accused of terrorism.

Norwegian police had said earlier there were signs that the suspect in the attack had become radicalized after recently converting to Islam.

The security service is now investigating whether what happened could inspire others to commit serious acts of violence. However, there are no concrete indications of this. 

The 37-year-old Danish man is suspected of attacking numerous people with several weapons, including a bow and arrow, in the southern town of Kongsberg on Wednesday night. 

Five people were killed and two injured, all between the ages of 50 and 70, police said. Four of the dead were women, one was a man. Of the two who were injured, one was a police officer shopping in a supermarket.

Police received the first report of the assailant moving through the city with a bow and arrow at 6:13 pm (1613 GMT) on Wednesday. 

A police patrol spotted him five minutes later but he fired arrows towards the officers and initially managed to flee. 

It is likely the victims were killed shortly afterwards, according to police spokesperson Ole Bredrup Saverud.

Officers detained the suspect half an hour after they had received the first emergency call, the police said.

The suspect is thought to have acted alone. 

He is a resident of the town of Kongsberg in southern Norway, police said. 

A prosecutor told broadcaster TV2 that the man had admitted to the acts and that he had previously been known to police. She said he had been in contact with the Norwegian health service on several occasions. It was unclear from her statements whether the suspect had been treated for mental health problems. 

An old childhood friend of the detained man said in an interview to the online newspaper Nettavisen that he had already informed the police in 2017 that he considered his friend dangerous. 

The attacks took place in several locations in central Kongsberg. On Thursday, the centre was largely cordoned off.

Bows and arrows are considered sports equipment rather than weapons in Norway and can be bought freely, although they may not be used for hunting. 

The incident occurred on the eve of the inauguration of the new Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Store, who said he was shocked. “What we have had to hear from Kongsberg this evening testifies to the fact that a cruel and brutal act has been committed,” he told NTB news agency late on Wednesday. 

The attack did not affect the change in government. Store, the head of the Labour Party, took office on Thursday morning. He will head a minority government with the Centre Party. 

German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Foreign Minister Heiko Maas sent their condolences to the families of the victims, and Steinmeier wrote to King Harald V to express German solidarity with Norway.

“I am sad to hear that Norway, 10 years after the terrible terror attack in Utoya and Oslo has again been the victim of violence,” he said, adding that Germany stood with Norway in the defence of democracy against violence and hatred.

The killings come 10 years after the country’s worst terrorist attack, when 77 people were murdered by a right-wing extremist.

On July 22, 2011, Anders Behring Breivik detonated a car bomb in Oslo, killing eight people, before driving to the island of Utoya, where he opened fire on attendees of the annual summer camp held by the Labour party’s youth organization, killing 69 people, mostly teenagers and young adults.

(dpa-international)

A Danish citizen ( Danish converts to Islam) Terrorist linked in his 30s has been arrested and charged after five people were killed and two others injured in attack using a bow and arrows in the Norwegian town of Kongsberg.

The acting prime minister, Erna Solberg, described reports of the attack as “horrifying” and said it was too early to speculate on the man’s motive.

“I understand that many people are afraid, but it’s important to emphasise that the police are now in control,” she told a news conference.

The prime minister-designate, Jonas Gahr Støre, who is expected to take office on Thursday, called the assault “a cruel and brutal act” in comments to Norwegian news agency NTB.

A “large number” of police, as well as helicopters, dogs and armed response teams secured the area soon afterwards, and the suspect was arrested about 30 minutes later after a brief confrontation with officers.

The shooting appears to have started in or near a Coop store in the city centre where there were several casualties, Norwegian media reported, citing regional government officials who said details were “still very confused”. Several other people were injured in different stores in the city centre, according to media reports.

A Coop spokesperson, Harald Kristiansen, told NRK there had been “a serious incident in our store” but no employees were among the injured. “We are providing assistance to our colleagues and helping police with their investigation,” he said.

“A lot of resources were sent from several places, including Oslo police district, the bomb squad, national police and emergency response teams,” Aas told journalists. “There is still a lot of police activity across the area. They are securing the various crime scenes … and have many witnesses to interview.”

The VG newspaper showed images of an arrow that appeared to be stuck in the wall of a wood-panelled building.

Kari Anne Sand, Kongsberg’s mayor, told the newspaper the attack was “a tragedy for all those involved. I have no words”. Sand said a crisis team had been installed in a hotel to support those affected. “We are doing all we can,” she added. “Right now it is a chaotic situation and there are a lot of rumours.”

Shortly after the attack Norway’s national police directorate said it had ordered officers nationwide to carry firearms. Norwegian police are normally unarmed but officers have access to guns and rifles when needed.

“This is an extra precaution. The police have no indication so far that there is a change in the national threat level,” the directorate said in a statement.

The total number of Muslims in Denmark is based on an estimate. An estimated 4.0% of Danes – some 221,800 are Muslims in 2009. The first Muslims were registered in a Danish census in 1880.
 

The origin of Denmark’s Muslims varies. Research suggests that 24.7 % are of Turkish origin, 12 % are of Iraqi origin, 10,8% Lebanese, 8,2% of Pakistani origin  and 7.6 % of Somali origin. There are an estimated 2-5,000 Danish converts. This estimate does not take account of internal religious differences within Islam. A survey from 2007 indicated that Muslims in Denmark were 49% Sunni, 13% Shi’i, 19% ‘Islam, other’ (which may include Ahmadis, Alevis and Sufis). The rest said they belonged to other religions or no religion

Ahead of the visit to Islamabad, a top U.S. official asked Pakistan to take action against all extremist groups. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman will meet on October 7-8 with officials in Pakistan, which has long faced US accusations of playing a double game in Afghanistan where the Taliban swept back to power in August.

“We seek a strong partnership with Pakistan on counterterrorism and we expect sustained action against all terrorist groups without distinction,” Sherman told reporters over the phone.

“Both of our countries have suffered terribly from the scourge of terrorism and we look forward to cooperative efforts to eliminate all regional and global terrorist threats,” she said from Switzerland, her first stop on a trip that will also take her to India and Uzbekistan.

Below is a full rush transcript of the press conference by Special Briefing via Telephone with Wendy Sherman Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of State.

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Thanks very much. 

I just concluded three days of engagements here in Switzerland, first in Geneva, where I led a U.S. interagency delegation to the Strategic Stability Dialogue with Russia, and then in Bern, where I was pleased to inaugurate the U.S.-Switzerland Strategic Partnership Dialogue with State Secretary Livia Leu.  

With thanks to the Swiss Government, earlier this year President Biden and President Putin met in Geneva and agreed to embark on an integrated, deliberate, and robust Strategic Stability Dialogue between the United States and Russia.  This week was our second plenary meeting held in Geneva.  The two delegations had a substantive conversation and we were able to announce in a joint statement that we are forming two interagency expert working groups: a Working Group on Principles and Objectives for Future Arms Control, and a Working Group on Capabilities and Actions with Strategic Effects.  These expert working groups will be able to dig into the details on a wide range of issues of importance to the two delegations ahead of our next plenary meeting.

The Strategic Stability Dialogue also demonstrates how the United States is committed to engagement, even with those countries, like Russia, with whom we have very serious disagreements.  Despite our differences, the United States and Russia both recognize that it is the responsibility of great powers to come together and to try to solve problems where we can, and that is what we are doing with the Strategic Stability Dialogue.

As I said, following the SSD I traveled to Bern, where I was honored to inaugurate the U.S.-Switzerland Strategic Partnership Dialogue.  The relationship between the United States and Switzerland is based on a strong foundation of common democratic values, a shared respect for the rule of law, our commitment to upholding human rights, and robust trade, commercial, and people-to-people ties.  State Secretary Leu and I had a productive discussion on issues that are important to our relationship, including trade, cybersecurity, and the climate crisis, and we also spoke about global geopolitical issues where we have shared interests, including Afghanistan, Iran, Russia, and the People’s Republic of China.

We are grateful for Switzerland’s partnership as we work together to ensure continued safe access to Afghanistan and the Afghan people for humanitarian aid and humanitarian aid workers.  The United Nations has warned that 1 million Afghan children are at risk of starvation due to the political chaos and economic crisis in Afghanistan.  We are very glad that more than $1 billion in humanitarian assistance pledges were made at a UN conference in Geneva in September, including a Swiss pledge of 60 million Swiss francs over the next 16 months.  We’re also working closely with Switzerland to press the Taliban to live up to their commitments on counterterrorism, on ensuring safe and orderly travel for Afghans and foreign nationals, and on respecting human rights, including the rights of women and children.  It is critical that we speak with one voice on these issues, and we welcome Switzerland’s continued leadership [inaudible].   

On Iran, the United States deeply values Switzerland for acting as our protecting power in that country.  Switzerland has played a central role in working to obtain the release of wrongfully detained U.S. citizens in Iran for 40 years – work that continues to this day.  And Switzerland is also a critical partner to the United States as we remain committed to the path of meaningful diplomacy to achieve a mutual return to compliance of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.  

Finally, of course, we discussed the People’s Republic of China and how, as democracies and as strong believers in the importance of a transparent, rules-based international order to enable peace and prosperity around the world, the United States and Switzerland must work together with our allies and partners to uphold our values and principles, including around human rights.

Following the Strategic Partnership Dialogue, I was pleased to be able to pay a courtesy call to Foreign Minister Cassis and to thank him for Switzerland’s leadership in promoting dialogue and diplomacy on all of these pressing global issues.  Today’s conversations reaffirm the strong bilateral cooperation between the United States and Switzerland, and I am glad to say that both countries are committed to seeing dialogue – such dialogues happen more regularly and to continue to work together on shared priorities.

I want to briefly highlight one of those priorities, and that is the urgent need to build back better from the COVID-19 pandemic, in our countries and around the world, making sure we have a well-educated, highly skilled workforce.  A workforce ready to perform the jobs of the 21st century is absolutely key to building back better.  I just came to this call from a terrific roundtable discussion with Swiss State Secretary for Education, Research, and Innovation Martina Hirayama and representatives from several Swiss companies that operate apprenticeship programs in the United States.  The United States has many successful, high-quality apprenticeship programs in the building and construction trades, but the Swiss model shows how young people can learn while they earn in a much broader range of industries, including healthcare, IT, and financial services.  The U.S. and Switzerland signed an MOU on apprenticeships in 2015, and I am pleased to say our governments are making good progress right now on updating that MOU.  Expanding high-quality and registered apprenticeships in more industries and for more Americans is a priority for President Biden because investing in our nation’s young people will make the United States stronger at home and abroad.

Finally, while we did not discuss our defense ties today, I do want to take the opportunity to note our appreciation for the Federal Council’s selection of the F-35 and Patriot systems to modernize Swiss air defense and Swiss security.  With these selections, Switzerland will join the large and experienced consortium of nations in Europe and around the world who recognize the superior quality and value of these systems, and we will build on more than a half century of cooperation in support of Switzerland’s sovereign security.

Question:  I have a question about the U.S.-Russia Strategic Dialogue.  What have you been able to achieve in Geneva yesterday, and what actually the Strategic Dialogue will include in the future in terms of will it include cybersecurity, space, and artificial intelligence as well as new weapons? 

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  The dialogue covers the full range of issues.  Both Russia and the United States are able to put on the table whatever they wish to discuss in a broad area that includes more traditional arms control, conventional weapons, new kinds of weaponry, artificial intelligence, cyberspace, though there are cyber discussions that happen in other channels as well.  Really, everything you can imagine in this broad arena of arms control capabilities, principles, and strategic effects of weapons.  

Arms control dialogues take a very long time.  It’s highly technical.  I come to these dialogues with a very robust interagency team.  I guess it’s close to 20 or 30 people.  They – as do the Russians.  We have people from the Pentagon, from the Department of Energy, from the Joint Staff, from the State Department, and from all parts of the State Department, from the White House.  And the Russian delegation likewise is quite diverse and representing the full range of interests in the Russian Government.

So we have very robust and detailed discussions, and we are very glad that we were able to issue this joint statement announcing two working groups that can begin to do – dig in and do some of the work that is needed.

The dialogue has a value in and of itself because it unveils norms that we both believe in and want to establish as the two largest powers that have nuclear weapons, and the largest number of nuclear weapons.  So it’s very good in and of itself, but we all hope that we head to achieving some objectives about moving forward.  Our presidents in their statement when they met talked about laying the groundwork for the future of New START as one example, and so that is on the table as well.  

Question:  What are sort of the reasons for the partnership with Switzerland?  Are you looking for more responsibility from European states on security issues, since the U.S. is focused on Asia?

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Well, the U.S., first of all, is focused on the world because we have relationships all over the world, in every hemisphere, on every continent.  It’s quite critical, and our relationship and our U.S.-Swiss partnership is really longstanding and we want to continue to build on the success of that longstanding partnership towards global prosperity and stability.  We have common values.  We share rigorous economic links and we see the world in the same way while respecting each other’s governments and governing models, which are somewhat different.  

We also deeply value Switzerland’s role as our protecting power in Iran, appreciate Switzerland hosting the U.S.-Russia summit in Geneva and the subsequent discussions that are following on in Geneva.  We seek to deepen our strategic partnership to promote democracy and human rights, advance investment opportunities in infrastructure in clean technology – Switzerland was the first country to do a commitment towards climate – enhance, expand apprenticeships for American workers, further strengthen our cooperation in cyber defense, and as I said, partner together as we head to COP26 with Switzerland truly understanding how critical it is to address climate change.  

Question:  You said it’s a goal to strengthen the relationship with Switzerland.  At the same time, the U.S. still doesn’t have an ambassador to Bern.  Why has Scott Miller not yet been confirmed?

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Oh, you are asking a $60 million question.  We have a very complex system in the United States where people are identified to go to a country through a very complex process.  If you’re a career Foreign Service officer, you go through a D Committee, which I chair, which takes some time.  Then your background is looked at very carefully.  Then you have a hearing in front of the United States Senate.  You have to get voted out of the committee, then you have to get voted on the floor of the United States Senate, where any senator can actually put a hold on you for a while and then it takes time to get floor time for a vote.  

I know I’m telling you details that don’t matter to anyone except the people going through it, and so it can be a very long process, and over the years it’s become a longer and longer process.  So Switzerland is not being singled out.  We have a structural issue to get people nominated, through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and confirmed, and we have a couple of senators right now that have put a hold on our nominees, so it takes more floor time to get them confirmed.  We just got a few more people confirmed and I hope that we soon can move through those who have been nominated to be ambassadors all over the world.  It’s quite critical.  We’re very lucky to have a very competent and capable chargé d’affaires here, so I don’t think that Switzerland is missing a beat in its relationship with the United States while Switzerland awaits the confirmed ambassador.  We’re going to make it happen as soon as we possibly can. 

Question:  I wanted to ask about the upcoming parts of the trip – Uzbekistan, India, and Pakistan if I’m correct.  I’m wondering in Pakistan what you would look for in terms of Pakistan’s relationship to the Taliban and Afghanistan; in Uzbekistan, whether there’s room for any cooperation in terms of military cooperation or using air bases; and then in India, what would be the goal or the main focus, I guess, for your time in New Delhi? 

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Thanks.  I’m going to start backwards.  We have an incredibly strong relationship with India.  As you know, the President just hosted the Quad leaders meeting in Washington and had a bilateral with Prime Minister Modi.  We – India is a very profound democracy that really is a center for a lot of innovation, development, and change, and we partner very strongly with India as an essential democracy that shares our values, where we have a strong trade relationship, defense relationship, values relationship.  So that will be a trip that will be both in New Delhi and in Mumbai with official meetings as well as meetings with civil society, the business community, and really deepen what is an essential relationship not only in Asia but worldwide.  

I’m starting from Bern to go to Tashkent, Uzbekistan.  Uzbekistan is a highly valued strategic partner with whom we’re collaborating in a number of key areas, including regional security, climate change, economic connectivity, and human rights.  We welcome Uzbekistan’s leadership on Afghanistan.  We support the Government of Uzbekistan’s reform agenda, and they’ve made just tremendous progress.  In December 2020, Uzbekistan was removed from the Special Watch List for governments that engaged in or tolerated severe violations of religious freedom because Uzbekistan has made significant and concrete progress, and we want to affirm that progress as we move to salute countries that are democracies or trying to move towards more democratic reform.  You know that the President will be holding a Summit for Democracy to raise up the values and the processes we need to make sure that people can live lives of prosperity and freedom.  Our relationship with Uzbekistan is a 30-year-old bilateral relationship, and I look forward to my meetings there.   

In Pakistan, we’ve always viewed Pakistan as – a strong, prosperous, and democratic Pakistan as critical to U.S. interests.  We welcome Pakistan’s calls for the Taliban to form an inclusive government and for the Taliban to uphold their commitments.  We remain ready to work with Pakistan to meet its stated commitments to combat militant and terrorist groups without distinction.  We support strengthening the economic ties between our countries and to improve access to energy, grow our agricultural trade, and address some longstanding challenges that stand in the way of expanding commerce.

So we have – these are three countries that matter a great deal regionally and, certainly in the case of India, to the world.  We want to deepen our relationships and really urge on democratic reforms that will bring greater prosperity to the people in countries as well as greater prosperity to the world.  

Question:  Madam Secretary.  Both the Russians and the French are talking about useful it would be to convene a P5 summit meeting.  The French are specifically calling for discussing key arms control and collective security issues in this format.  Is this something that the United States would like to do?  Are you ready to take part in such a summit meeting?  

And unrelated to strategic stability, if I may, when can we expect to see at least some normalization of U.S. visa issuance to Russia’s nationals?  As a result of pandemic restrictions and this visa war playing out between the two nations, virtually all of Russia’s citizens have now practically lost the ability to travel to the U.S., I think.  It’s just impacting people-to-people ties.  Does the U.S. intend to do something about this?

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  So, first of all, starting in November people can travel to the United States if they are vaccinated.  So the way that people will be able to travel will change starting in November.  Yes, there are visa issues that are being discussed between our two countries, but I believe there is a commitment by both of our countries to resolve those issues as soon as we possibly can.  

As for the P5 meeting, there was actually a P5 meeting at the UN General Assembly High-Level Week at the ministerial level.  So Secretary Blinken was engaged in that P5 meeting, and I think we find such discussions at appropriate times very valuable. 

Question:  When will the remainder of evacuees from Afghanistan be transferred to the U.S. from overseas military sites such as Ramstein Air Force Base?  Is capacity at installations in the U.S. an issue or is this mainly an issue of CDC guidance on measles and COVID?

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Well, as everyone knows, helping people leave Afghanistan in the wake of the Taliban takeover was a very difficult process.  Working together, including with Germany and Switzerland and many, many, many countries, including all of the ones that we’ve talked about today so far, in the space of about 17 days 124,000 people were able to travel safely out of Afghanistan.  That work goes on.  Countries are continuing to ensure that there’s safe and orderly travel outside of Afghanistan, certainly in the case of America, where American citizens are concerned, legally permanent – LPRs, legal permanent residents, SIVs, those with special visas, as well as Afghans at risk.  And Germany has done likewise to help its nationals.  

Among the many challenges that the international community has faced, one that we did not anticipate was measles, and there was a measles outbreak and so public health authorities decided that it was critical that everyone at these transit hubs, including at Ramstein, get vaccinated for measles to protect them and to make sure that we didn’t have an epidemic.  And public health officials also decided they needed to stay for a few days to make sure that that vaccination took hold and they would be safe and their families would be safe and the people they were traveling with would be safe.  So as soon as that time period is up, people will be moving out and some already are.  I am – the United States is incredibly grateful to Germany for hosting so many people who have left Afghanistan and really providing extraordinary support.  So we’re very grateful and very sorry that measles slowed down the process of putting Ramstein back into regular order.  It will happen soon.

Question: I wanted to ask a little bit more about the Pakistan stop that’s coming up.  As you know, Prime Minister Khan has made a series of statements in recent days saying essentially that Pakistan has been falsely blamed for the Taliban taking over and for its policies in Afghanistan.  I wanted to see if that’s a conversation you’re eager to have in Pakistan if you see that as being part of the discussions, and his calls, the Pakistani Government’s calls for negotiations or for engagement with the Taliban and with militants at home – is that something that the U.S. supports?  What else could be asked potentially of Pakistan? 

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Sure.  Pakistan has a lot to gain from a peaceful and stable Afghanistan.  Therefore it’s vital that Pakistan continues taking constructive steps towards that goal.  What we seek is a solid partnership with Pakistan on counterterrorism, and we expect sustained action against all militant and terrorist groups without distinction.  Both of our countries have suffered terribly from the scourge of terrorism, and we look forward to cooperative efforts to eliminate all regional and global terrorist threats.  

As we all have said, we’ve been in regular touch with the Pakistani leadership and we’ve discussed Afghanistan in detail.  Pakistan took part in a ministerial in September and we’ll continue to engage in Islamabad, as I will do on this trip.  Secretary Blinken also met with Foreign Minister Qureshi on the – on September 23rd on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly High-Level Week, and they discussed the way forward in Afghanistan and the importance of coordinating our diplomatic engagement and facilitating the departure of those wishing to leave Afghanistan.  We are glad that Pakistan frequently and publicly calls for an inclusive government with broad support in Afghanistan, and we look to Pakistan to play a critical role in enabling that outcome.

Question:  The question I have is concerning the strategic dialogue.  Do you foresee any possibility to have a strategic dialogue as well with China in the future despite all the problems the U.S. has actually with China?  

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  The term of strategic dialogue with China.  I do see engagement with China.  As I think you know, I myself was asked by the Secretary to go to Tianjin to meet with State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi and with Vice Minister Xie Feng.  I met with China’s, PRC’s ambassador to Washington.  We know that President Biden recently had a call with President Xi, and in that call discussed how they might have further discussions.  

We have said repeatedly that our relationship with the PRC is a complex one.  We will compete vigorously for the prosperity of our people in the years ahead, and we want to do so on a level playing field, and we will point out along with our allies and partners when the PRC is not playing on a level playing field.  It was exactly that level playing field that helped enable them to become the country they are today and to become a more prosperous country.  We had discussions here in Switzerland about China and the Swiss have put out a Chinese – a strategy towards the PRC that certainly wants to have a positive relationship, but at the same time understands that economic coercion is not acceptable in the international community, that abandonment of human rights is not something that is acceptable in the international community. 

So we seek vigorous competition, but on a level playing field.  We will challenge the PRC when we must and we will look for areas of cooperation where we can find it.  In fact, when I was in Tianjin, I was then on my way to the first Strategic Stability Dialogue in Geneva with Russia, and I said to my Chinese interlocutors we disagree, Russia and we, on many, many, many things, and yet here we are cooperating to try to ensure that the two largest nuclear powers in the world make sure that the world stays safe.  So we ought to be able to find those areas where we can cooperate together.

So there is a long road here, but engagement is certainly part of it.

Question:  I have a question on Russia-Turkey.  Mr. Erdogan just returned to Ankara from Sochi.  He said that he is going to buy a new set of S-400s, warplanes, submarines, and build with Russia two more nuclear power plants.  I think he acts and reacts like an enemy of the United States.  I don’t think that he considers himself as an ally of the United States, but a friend to Russia and Iran.  Can you tell us, please, one reason why the State Department thinks that this guy is an ally of America? 

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Let’s start with the basics here.  Turkey is a NATO ally.  They are a valuable member of NATO.  NATO is a security organization that has helped keep Europe and the world safe, and indeed, NATO’s very famous Article 5, which says an attack on one is an attack on all, has been invoked only once, and that was after 9/11 for NATO to go into Afghanistan with the United States and with everyone else.  

We know that President Erdogan said that they might consider and have the right to consider any weapons system, including the S-400.  This is an ongoing issue.  We urge – we’ve urged Turkey at every level and opportunity not to retain the S-400 system and refrain from purchasing any additional Russian military equipment.  We continue to make that clear to Turkey and what the consequences will be if they move in that direction.  We believe as a NATO [inaudible] that such systems are not compatible or operable with NATO systems.  

Turkey is a challenge sometimes.  I’m sure they find the United States a challenge at times.  But they are a valued NATO ally.  They are also a host to millions of Syrian refugees.  They have built a robust economy.  When it came to the Kabul airport, to ensure that people could leave, Turkey helped to stand up the airport.  And yes, they have complex relationships with lots of countries, as do we.  And we are – we don’t hesitate to call out countries when we think, whether it’s human rights [inaudible] what choices they make when we believe that they’re not in our interests or the interests of the world.  But we also call out countries for the value they bring to their relationship with us and with the world, and Turkey is a valued NATO partner and we look forward to continuing to build that relationship with all of its complexity and sometimes its challenges.  

Deputy Secretary Sherman:  Just thank you all for joining today.  Part of what’s important about the State Department and all of my interagency colleagues is that we work together as a team.  One of the things about the Biden-Harris administration that is really super – and this is the third president for whom I’ve worked, and the fourth or fifth secretary of state; I don’t remember – is that this is really a team.  Throughout the government, whatever challenge is in front of us, we work together to try to solve it, bring prosperity and security and freedom to the American people, and to work as we have over the last three days with our Swiss partners to work together to bring the best for the most people all over the world.

So thank you very much.  And I am headed off tomorrow to Tashkent for the challenging trip that you all have asked about today, and I look forward to talking to you again sometime.  Thank you.